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<rss version="2.0"><channel><title>Redeemer Blogs</title><link>http://www.rcpc.com</link><description>desc</description><language>en-us</language><pubDate>ok</pubDate><item><title><![CDATA[The Shack - Impressions]]></title><pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:49:43 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=114</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br /><p>Over the holidays I read a good (and devastating) review of
William P. (Paul) Young's <em>The Shack </em>in
the most recent print edition of <em>Books
and Culture: A Christian Review </em>(Jan/Feb 2010.)&amp;#160; It was a reminder that I was one of the last
people on the planet not to have read the book. So I did. So why write a blog
post about it? It had sold 7.2 million copies in a little over 2 years, by June
of 2009. With those kinds of numbers, the book will certainly exert some influence
over the popular religious imagination. So it warrants a response. This is not
a review, but just some impressions:</p><p>At the heart of the book is a noble effort -- to help modern
people understand why God allows suffering, using a narrative form. The
argument Young makes at various parts of the book is this. First, this world's
evil and suffering is the result of our abuse of free will. Second, God has not
prevented evil in order to accomplish some glorious, greater good that humans
cannot now understand. Third, when we stay bitter at God for a particular
tragedy we put ourselves in the seat of the 'Judge of the world and God', and
we are unqualified for such a job. Fourth, we must get an 'eternal perspective'
and see all God's people in joy in his presence forever. (The father in the
story is given a vision of his deceased daughter living in the joy of Christ's
presence, and it heals his grief.) This is all rather standard, orthodox,
pastoral theology (though it's a bit too heavy on the 'free-will defense').&amp;#160; It is so accessible to readers because of its
narrative form. I have heard many reports of semi-believers and non-believers
claiming that this book gave them an answer to their biggest objections to
faith in God. </p><p>However, sprinkled throughout the book, Young's story
undermines a number of traditional Christian doctrines. Many have gotten
involved in debates about Young's theological beliefs, and I have my own strong
concerns. But here is my main problem with the book. Anyone who is strongly influenced
by the imaginative world of <em>The Shack </em>will
be totally unprepared for the far more multi-dimensional and complex God that
you actually meet when you read the Bible. In the prophets the reader will find
a God who is constantly condemning and vowing judgment on his enemies, while
the Persons of the Triune-God of <em>The
Shack </em>repeatedly deny that sin is any offense to them. The reader of Psalm
119 is filled with delight at God's statutes, decrees, and laws, yet the God of
<em>The Shack </em>insists that he doesn't give
us any rules or even have any expectations of human beings. All he wants is
relationship. The reader of the lives of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, and Isaiah will
learn that the holiness of God makes his immediate presence dangerous or fatal
to us. Someone may counter (as Young seems to do, on p.192) that because of
Jesus, God is now only a God of love, making all talk of holiness, wrath, and
law obsolete. But when John, one of Jesus' closest friends, long after the
crucifixion sees the risen Christ in person on the isle of Patmos, John 'fell
at his feet as dead.' (Rev.1:17.) <em>The
Shack </em>effectively deconstructs the holiness and transcendence of God. It is
simply not there. In its place is unconditional love, period. The God of <em>The Shack </em>has none of the balance and
complexity of the Biblical God. Half a God is not God at all.</p><p>There is another modern text that sought to convey the
character of God through story. It also tried to 'embody' the Biblical doctrine
of God in an imaginative way that conveyed the heart of the Biblical message.
That story contained a Christ-figure named Aslan. Unlike the author of <em>The Shack, </em>however, C.S. Lewis was
always at pains to maintain the Biblical tension between the divine love and
his overwhelming holiness and splendor. In the introduction to his book <em>The Problem of Pain, </em>Lewis cited the
example from the children's text <em>The Wind
in the Willows </em>where two characters, Rat and Mole approach divinity.</p><p>"Afraid?" murmured the Rat, his eyes shining with
unutterable love. "Afraid? of Him? O, never, never. And yet -- and yet -- O
Mole, I am afraid."</p><p>Lewis sought to get this across at many places through his
Narnia tales. One of the most memorable is the description of Aslan. </p><p>"Safe?...Who said anything about safe? 'Course he isn't
safe. But he's good. He's the King, I tell you."</p><p>That's
better.</p><br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/114/105x64_new-york-public-library-lion_3.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 'Multi-Site' Model -- Thoughts]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:49:50 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=99</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br /><br /><p>Recently Redeemer was featured prominently in a <em>USA Today</em> article about multi-site churches. Outside of the fact that Redeemer doesn't 'do video,' the differences between our approach and others were not referred to. And in much discussion on line after the article, it was clear that all multi-site churches were being Lumped Together. Just for the sake of clarity, it might be helpful to know these facts about why and how Redeemer does the multi-site.<br /><br />1. First, we did <em>not </em>go to multi-site because it was more economical or efficient for us. When we began meeting at multiple sites ten years ago, we were already holding a morning and an evening service at a single site that was quite large. It would have been much more cost-effective to multiply to four or five services in that single location. Moving to other sites meant greatly increased costs for rent, for children's ministries, for music and many other things. <br /><br />2. Second, we did <em>not </em>go to multi-site to quickly reach more people. The auditorium where we began meeting 10 years ago seats over 2,000 people, and other spaces that size are not available. The spaces we have rented in other parts of the city are far smaller. If we had stayed in that space and multiplied services there, we would have reached greater numbers more swiftly. <br /><br />So what were the reasons that we adopted the multi-site model?<br /><br />1. First, we sent our services out into different locations so that people could worship closer to where they lived. People can become more deeply involved in the community and can more easily bring friends if they attend services in their neighborhood. This was an 'anti-mega-church' move, since huge churches create a large body of commuters who travel long distances to attend church. We wanted to resist this tendency and root people more in their locales. <br /><br />2. Second, the multi-site model is a transition design for us. Redeemer has a timetable for turning each site into a congregation in its own neighborhood, with its own pastoral leadership. I was the main preacher at all sites, but two years ago we went from four to five services at three sites, which is too many for me to preach in a Sunday. Rather than beaming me in by video, we determined that other pastors on the staff would always preach at least that fifth service. When we get to six and seven services, about two years from now, each site will have its own Lead Pastor who will share the preaching with me.<br /><br />We will then transition from a 'multi-site' to a 'collegiate' model. Though still under one unified board of elders, each church will have its own pastoral team, elder team, and set of lay leaders. Other collegiate models in our PCA denomination include Harbor Presbyterian in San Diego and Brooklyn Presbyterian here in New York City. <br /><br />I was careful in my interaction with the <em>USA Today</em> journalists not to criticize other multi-site churches. I do not know what motives other churches have for using the multi-site model, but those are ours.</p><br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/99/105x64_Renew_logo_banner_ad_273x147.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Do You Take Criticism of Your Views?]]></title><pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:40:27 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=86</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br />Recently several people have asked me 'how do you deal with harsh criticism?' In each case, the inquirer had felt stung by what they felt were unfair attacks on him or her. In this internet age, anyone can have their views censured unfairly by people they don't know. So what do you do when that happens? Here's is the gist of the counsel I give people when they ask me about this. For years I've been guided by a letter by John Newton that is usually entitled "On Controversy."<br> <br>The biggest danger of receiving criticism is not to your reputation, but to your heart. You feel the injustice of it and feel sorry for yourself, and it tempts you to despise not only the critic, but the entire group of people from which they come. "Those people..." you mutter under your breath. All this can make you prouder over time. Newton writes: "Whatever...makes us trust in ourselves that we are comparatively wise or good, so as to treat those with contempt who do not subscribe to our doctrines, or follow our party, is a proof and fruit of a self-righteous spirit." He argues that whenever contempt and superiority accompany our thoughts, it is a sign that "the doctrines of grace" are operating in our life "as mere notions and speculations" with "no salutary influence upon [our] conduct."<br> <br>So how can you avoid this temptation? First, you should look to see if there is a kernel of truth in even the most exaggerated and unfair broadsides. There is <em>usually </em>such a kernel when the criticism comes from friends, and there is <em>often </em>such truth when the disapproval comes from people who actually know you. So even if the censure is partly or even largely mistaken, look for what you may indeed have done wrong. Perhaps you simply acted or spoke in a way that was not circumspect. Maybe the critic is partly right for the wrong reasons. Nevertheless, identify your own short-comings, repent in your own heart before the Lord for what you can, and let that humble you. It will then be possible to learn from the criticism and stay gracious to the critic even if you have to disagree with what he or she has said. <br> <br>If the criticism comes from someone who doesn't know you at all (and often this is the case on the internet) it is possible that the criticism is completely unwarranted and profoundly mistaken. I am often pilloried not only for views I do have, but also even more often for views (and motives) that I do not hold at all. When that happens it is even easier to fall into a smugness and perhaps be tempted to laugh at how mistaken your critics are. "Pathetic..." you may be tempted to say. Don't do it. Even if there is not the slightest kernel of truth in what the critic says, you should not mock them in your thoughts. First, remind yourself of examples of your own mistakes, foolishness, and cluelessness in the past, times in which you really got something wrong. Second, pray for the critic, that he or she grows in grace. Newton talks about it like this:<br> <br>"If you account [your opponent] a believer, though greatly mistaken in the subject of debate between you, the words of David to Joab concerning Absalom are very applicable: 'Deal gently with him for my sake.'  The Lord loves him and bears with him; therefore you must not despise him, or treat him harshly.  The Lord bears with you likewise, and expects that you should show tenderness to others, from a sense of the much forgiveness you need yourself.  In a little while you will meet in heaven; he will then be dearer to you than the nearest friend you have upon earth is to you now.  Anticipate that period in your thoughts; and though you may find it necessary to oppose his errors, view him personally as a kindred soul, with whom you are to be happy in Christ forever."<br> <br>So whatever you do, do anything you can to avoid feeling smug and superior to the critic. Even if you say to yourself that you are just 'shrugging it off' and that you are not going to respond to the criticism, you can nonetheless conduct a full defense and refutation in the courtroom of your mind, in which you triumphantly prove how awful and despicable your opponents are. But that is a spiritual trap. Newton's remarks about this are very convicting:<br> <br>"A man may have the heart of a Pharisee, while his head is stored with orthodox notions of the unworthiness of the creature, and the riches of free grace.  Yea, I would add, the best of men are not wholly free from this leaven; and therefore are too apt to be pleased with such representations as hold up our adversaries to ridicule, and by consequence flatter our own superior judgments.  Controversies, for the most part, are so managed as to indulge rather than to repress his wrong disposition; and therefore, generally speaking, they are productive of little good.  They provoke those whom they should convince, and puff up those whom they should edify.  I hope your performance will savor of a spirit of true humility, and be a means of promoting it in others."<br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/86/105x64_istock11.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Country Parson]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:33:05 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=78</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br />Young pastors or seminarians often ask me for advice on what kind of early ministry experience to seek in order to best grow in skill and wisdom as a pastor. They often are surprised when I tell them to consider being a 'country parson' -- namely, the solo pastor of a small church, many or most of which are in non-urban settings.  Let me quickly emphasize the word 'consider.' I would never insist that everyone must follow this path. Nevertheless, it is worth thinking about. It was great for me. <br> <br>Many young leaders perceive that the ideal first ministry position would be a position on the staff of a large church with an older, mature pastor to mentor them.  The limits of this model are several. You can't teach a younger pastor much about things they aren't actually doing. And in a large church they aren't a) bearing the burden of being the main leader, b) leading a board of elders, c) fund-raising and bearing the final responsibility of having enough money to do ministry, d) and doing the gamut of counseling, shepherding, teaching, preaching. In a smaller church as a solo pastor you and only you visit the elderly, do all the weddings and funerals, sit by the bedside of every dying parishioner, do all the marriage counseling, suspend and excommunicate, work with musicians, craft and lead worship, speak at every men's retreat, women's retreat, and youth retreat, write all the Bible studies and often Sunday School curriculum, train all the small group leaders, speak at the nursing home, work with your diaconate as they try to help families out of poverty, evangelize and welcome new visitors to the church, train volunteers to do some (but not all) of all of the above tasks, and deal with the once-a-month relational or financial crisis in the church.  No amount of mentoring can teach you what you learn from doing all those things.  <br> <br>Some will be surprised to hear me say this, since they know my emphasis on ministry in the city. Yes, I believe firmly that the evangelical church has neglected the city. It still is difficult to get Christians and Christian leaders to make the sacrifices necessary to live their lives out in cities. However, the disdain many people have for urban areas is no worse than the condescending attitudes many have toward small towns and small churches. <br> <br>Young pastors should not turn up their noses at such places, where they may learn the full spectrum of ministry tasks and skills as they will not in a large church. Nor should they go to small communities looking at them merely as stepping stones in a career. Why not? Your early ministry experience will only prepare you for 'bigger things,' if you don't aspire for anything bigger than investment in the lives of the people around you. Wherever you serve, put your roots down, become a member of the community and do your ministry with all your heart and might. If God opens the door to go somewhere else, fine and good. But don't go to such places looking at them only as training grounds for 'real ministry.' <br> <br>My own pathway of personal development began with nine years of being the pastor of a small church in a small town.  This equipped me well for church planting in New York City, because, when you start a church, you must be a generalist, not the specialist that large churches create.  I repeat -- I am not proposing that everyone follow the same course.  Being a 'country parson' is not the right move for everyone. But for some it is.<br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/78/105x64_Small-Country-Church_273x147.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA["Two Kinds of Popularity"]]></title><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:47:14 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=69</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br />For much of his life, John Calvin had two close friends -- Farel and Viret. Farel was very hot-headed and out-spoken, while Viret was of very mild temperament, an instinctive peace-keeper. Farel often came to Geneva and stayed at Calvin's home, where, sometimes with Viret, the friends would have long talks about theology and current events over a glass. Calvin delighted in the company of his zealous friend. Nevertheless, as time went on he came to see that Farel's inflexible nature made him a doughty defender but a limited propagator of the gospel. He often sent his own discourses and letters to Viret, whose job was to moderate his language. Calvin himself had been more hot-headed as a young man, and he worked to curb his own tongue.<br> <br>After Farel inappropriately denounced a prominent woman in Geneva from the pulpit, which turned her whole family against him, Calvin wrote him a remarkable letter:<br> <br>"When you have Satan to combat, and you fight under Christ's banner, he who puts on your armor and draws you into battle will give you the victory. But...we only earnestly desire that insofar as your duty permits you will accommodate yourself more to the people. There are, as you know, two kinds of popularity: the one, when we seek favor from motives of ambition and the desire of pleasing; the other, when, by fairness and moderation, we gain their esteem so as to make them teachable by us. You must forgive us if we deal rather freely with you...You are aware how much we love and revere you...We desire that in those remarkable endowments which the Lord has conferred upon you, no spot or blemish may be found for the malevolent to find fault with, or even to carp at."<br> <br>Here Calvin draws an extremely important distinction. There are two very different motivations for adapting and accommodating our message to the sensibilities of a group of people. The first motive is 'ambition' -- we do it for our sake, for our own glory and approval. The other reason we may accommodate people is for their sake, so that we can gradually win their trust until they become open to the truth they need so much. The first motive will so control us that we will never offend people. The second motive will help us choose our battles and not offend people unnecessarily. The Farels of the world cannot see any such distinction -- they believe any effort to be judicious and prudent is a cowardly 'sell-out'. But Calvin wisely recognized that his friend's constant, intemperate denunciations often stemmed not from a selfless courage, but rather from the opposite -- pride. He wrote of Farel to Viret saying, "He cannot bear with patience those who do not comply with his wishes."<br> <br>There's a reason for gaining people's esteem that is not vain-glorious, and, at the same time, there's a motivation for boldly speaking the truth -- that is vain-glorious. <br> <br>The letters of Calvin and the information for this came from the great new biography by Bruce Gordon, <em>Calvin</em> (Yale, 2009) pp.150-152.<br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/69/105x64_Calvin_by_Bruce_Gordon_273x147_b.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[Counterfeit Gods - The Personal Story]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:49:35 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=60</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br /><p>I often get asked how I personally became acquainted with the pervasive influence of idolatry in the
human heart. </p><p>Like many younger ministers I worked far too many hours, never
saying "no" to anyone's request for my pastoral services. When salary
increases were offered to me, I turned them down. When administrative help was
offered to me, I declined. I was quite proud of being the kind of person who
worked very hard, never complained, and never asked for any help. This
regularly brought me into conflict with my wife, who rightly contended that I
was neglecting my relationships to her and to my young sons. It also led to
health problems, although I was only in my early thirties. </p><p>Nevertheless, I continued to feel that the way I was living
was noble and good. I believed I was sacrificially committed to the ministry of
the Word. I was especially delighted to make sacrifices that nobody saw -- not
my people or even my family. That made me feel most noble of all. If all this
created some problems for me personally, wasn't that just evidence of how truly
devoted I was? It was a very dangerous situation. My future was bleak, though I
didn't know it. In the short run, this kind of ministry workaholism is often
rewarded by admiring people all around. </p><p>Some well-meaning friends, however, saw the problem and
literally "laid the law" on me, showing me that I was violating the
commandments of taking Sabbath and of honoring my family. I usually responded
with incremental changes that never endured. Others used the modern technique
of self-esteem -- "You need to think of yourself; you need to do things
that make you happy." I despised that advice as terribly selfish.  <em>I</em>
valued self-sacrifice.</p><p>It wasn't until I began to search my heart with the Biblical
category of idolatry that I made the horrendous discovery that all my supposed
sacrifices were just a series of selfish actions. I was <em>using</em> people in order to forge my own self-appreciation. I was
looking to my sacrificial ministry to give me the sense of "righteousness
before God" that should only come from Jesus Christ. People make idols out
of money, power, accomplishment, or moral excellence. They look to these things
to "save them" -- to give them the sense of purity, value, and acceptability
that only Jesus can give. In my case, I was using ministry (and my own people)
in this way.</p>

Without
the category of idolatry -- a good thing turned into a pseudo-salvation -- I
would never have been able to see myself. Nothing but the concept of
counterfeit gods could have blasted me out of my illusion of virtue and
superiority. I thank God for this life-saving insight -- though I still
struggle mightily with the implementation of what I've learned.<br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/60/105x64_cg.jpg">]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[Preacher-Onlys Aren't Good Preachers]]></title><pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:00:15 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=56</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal">In my blog post on Willow Creek, I said that many Reformed
evangelicals think of sound, expository preaching as something of a 'magic
bullet.' We may think that as long as we are preaching the Word--preaching the
law and the gospel rightly--that everything else in congregational life will
somehow take care of itself. We may give lip service to the other two marks of
the church--the administration of the sacraments and discipline--but we don't
give them proper weight. Fully considered, the administration of the sacraments
includes pastoral care, education, and discipleship, while the ministry of
discipline means rightly ordering the community, that is, pastoral leadership. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I have often seen many men spend a great amount of time on
preparing and preaching lengthy, dense, expository messages, while giving far
less time and energy to the learning of leadership and pastoral nurture. It
takes lots of experience and effort to help a body of people make a unified
decision, or to regularly raise up new lay leaders, or to motivate and engage
your people in evangelism, or to think strategically about the stewardship of
your people's spiritual gifts, or even to discern what they are. It takes lots
of experience and effort to know how to help a sufferer without being either
too passive or too directive, or to know when to confront a doubter and when to
just listen patiently. Pastors in many of our Reformed churches do not seem to
be as energized to learn to be great leaders and shepherds, but rather have
more of an eye to being great teachers and preachers. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I'd point us to the example of John Calvin himself. No one
put more emphasis on expository preaching as central to ministry. And yet
Calvin sat nearly every Thursday in the Consistory, hearing hundreds of
practical pastoral cases each year brought by the elders of the city to the
council of pastors and other elders. He applied his theology to the intimate
details of "adultery and fornication, disputed engagements and weddings,
family quarrels, incest, rape, sodomy, buggery, prostitution, voyeurism,
abortion, child neglect, child abuse, education disputes, spousal abuse,
mistreatment of maids, family poverty, embezzlement of family property,
sickness, divorce, marital property disputes, inheritance..." (Witte and
Kingdon, <em>Sex, Marriage, and Family in
John Calvin's Geneva, Vol 1, </em>p. 15.) Also, Calvin's voluminous
correspondence shows what a forceful and wise leader and statesman he was.  Because Calvin was not only a preacher but
also a great shepherd and leader, he built up the church in a way that changed
the world. </p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I pastor a church with a large staff and so I give 15+ hours
a week to preparing the sermon. I would not advise younger ministers to spend
so much time, however. When I was a pastor without a staff I put in 6-8 hours
on a sermon. If you put in too much time in your study on your sermon you put
in too little time being out with people as a shepherd and a leader. Ironically,
this will make you a poorer preacher. It is only through doing people-work that
you become the preacher you need to be--someone who knows sin, how the heart
works, what people's struggles are, and so on. Pastoral care and leadership
(along with private prayer) <em>are</em>
to a great degree sermon preparation. More accurately, it is preparing the
preacher, not just the sermon. Through pastoral care and leadership you grow
from being a Bible commentator into a flesh and blood preacher.</p>]]></description></item><item><title><![CDATA[The 'Kingly' Willow Creek Conference]]></title><pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:52:20 UTC</pubDate><author>Tim Keller</author><link>http://rcpc.com:80/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=44</link><description><![CDATA[Author: Tim Keller<br />Category: Blog <br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal">This summer I spoke at the Willow Creek Leadership Summit.
It was an honor to be invited. No one pulls off a conference like Willow Creek.
Who else could bring their content to 120,000 people?  And the three other talks or sessions that I
saw were extremely high quality. </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The time at Willow
led me to reflect on how much criticism this church has taken over the years.
On the one hand, my own 'camp' -- the non-mainline Reformed world -- has been
critical of its pragmatism, its lack of emphasis on sound doctrine. On the
other hand, the emerging and post-modern ministries and leaders have disdained Willow's individualism,
its program-centered, 'corporate' ethos. 
These critiques, I think, are partly right, but when you are actually
there you realize many of the most negative evaluations are caricatures.  </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">John Frame's 'tri-perspectivalism' helps me understand Willow. The Willow Creek
style churches have a 'kingly' emphasis on leadership, strategic thinking, and
wise administration. The danger there is that the mechanical obscures how
organic and spontaneous church life can be. The Reformed churches have a 'prophetic' emphasis on preaching, teaching, and doctrine. The danger there is
that we can have a na&iuml;ve and unBiblical view that, if we just expound the Word
faithfully, everything else in the church -- leader development, community
building, stewardship of resources, unified vision -- will just happen by
themselves. The emerging churches have a 'priestly' emphasis on community,
liturgy and sacraments, service and justice. The danger there is to view 'community' as the magic bullet in the same way Reformed people view preaching.  </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">By thinking in this way, it makes it possible for me to love
and appreciate the best representatives of each of these contemporary
evangelical 'traditions.' Nobody provides more practical help for organizing
and leading ministry than Willow Creek. 
I also am humbled that Redeemer is well-regarded in each of these 'streams' of evangelicalism, though we have our feet firmly set in our own
Reformed tradition.  That is quite
unusual, and it makes it possible for us to both teach and learn across the
spectrum of church life today. </p><br /><IMG src="http://rcpc.com:80//content/com.redeemer.blogs.Blog/44/105x64_logo_2.jpg">]]></description></item></channel></rss>